1985 3.2 engine compartment fuel line replacement

[german1985]

Griffiths, based on my research, appears to be a supplier of quality fuel line replacement assemblies for my 1985 3.2 Metzger engine.
They are OOS on their kit that includes the intake manifolds spacers and gaskets - ie advisable to have on hand if the fuel line replacement is done with the engine in the car vs dropped.
1. Why 'spacers' ? help me on the spacers?- gaskets I get - don't want intake manifold leaks.
2. So for anyone who has done this; how are these two different parts ie spacers and gaskets -used
together on reassembly?
3. Using the Griffiths order site as reference; in their kit that include these above parts they picture 3
images darker in color and 6 lighter in color = which are which ie spacers vs gaskets?
4. regrettably I would have preferred to order the Griffiths kit with the gaskets and spacers, but an
email to them result in the answer that they did not know when the kit including manifold devices
would ever be available??
So I am now faced with sourcing these 'spacers' and 'gaskets' independently.
5. Can anyone supply the Porsche part numbers for each of these + manifold spacers/gaskets?

Always a pleasure to visit here - an incredible wealth of knowledge so willingly shared.
Best Wishes,
Greg

[Tom]

Hey Greg, thanks for the kind words about Carpokes. Former '85 owner here, and still kicking myself for selling it with 40k miles for $20k. Hindsight, what are you gonna do. Responses to your questions below...


1. The spacers are said to isolate the intake from engine heat and increase the runner length a smidge. Hot rodders often add them to other motors for the same reason.

2. There's a gasket on both sides of the spacer to make a little spacer sandwich. See diagram below.

3. I couldn't find a picture like that, but the spacers are thick, maybe 5-10mm, whereas the gaskets are just a thin piece of gasket material. See the Pelican Parts links below with pictures of both.

4. I had the same experience with Griffiths recently with their 944 condenser. Makes me wonder if he is scaling down his business/inventory.

5. Looks like the gaskets are part number 930-110-197-14 (12 needed), and the spacers are part number 930 110 459 00 (6 needed). See links below.

https://www.pelicanparts.com/search/?q=+930+110+459+00

https://www.pelicanparts.com/search/?q=930-110-197-14

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[german1985]

Tom = site Admin; - GREAT answer so complete- ie WITH part #'s!!!!! Enough that I placed the order for both parts promptly at Pelican.
I understand the regret re your sold 1985; There seem to be many available out there = many produced vs earlier decades - you could get one - but, now $65m to $100m. I bought mine new in May 1985 - Targa Carrera ~ $41,000 - now just under 198,000 miles and just getting broken in good - hand built engine starts and runs like NEW. Bruce Anderson, rest his soul, said these engines would routinely go 400,000 miles before rebuild. Mine has been meticulously maintained - so guess the rebuild will be on the next owner as I'm now nearly 78 and only expect to get another 20 years of driving myself! Keep up your good work! Carpokes has become a daily asset of knowledge and friendly sharing aimed at keeping these legendary/legacy vehicles on the road as long as possible.
Best Wishes,
Greg
PS; Some years ago saw your full page ad in I think Panorama or perhaps Excellence!

[Tom]

Tom = site Admin; - GREAT answer so complete- ie WITH part #'s!!!!! Enough that I placed the order for both parts promptly at Pelican.
I understand the regret re your sold 1985; There seem to be many available out there = many produced vs earlier decades - you could get one - but, now $65m to $100m. I bought mine new in May 1985 - Targa Carrera ~ $41,000 - now just under 198,000 miles and just getting broken in good - hand built engine starts and runs like NEW. Bruce Anderson, rest his soul, said these engines would routinely go 400,000 miles before rebuild. Mine has been meticulously maintained - so guess the rebuild will be on the next owner as I'm now nearly 78 and only expect to get another 20 years of driving myself! Keep up your good work! Carpokes has become a daily asset of knowledge and friendly sharing aimed at keeping these legendary/legacy vehicles on the road as long as possible.
Best Wishes,
Greg
PS; Some years ago saw your full page ad in I think Panorama or perhaps Excellence!

Thanks for the kind words on the site. Very much appreciate that! Pelican is my go-to place for Porsche parts, primarily because they accurately list if they have parts in stock; offer most available brands; process orders quickly; and drop ship from a warehouse about 40 miles from my house. Most parts get to me next day if they are in stock.

Are you going to do the work yourself? If so, we'd love to see pictures of the process and any tips you might have along the way. Posts like that can be invaluable for folks down the road.

I took Bruce's engine building class way back when, and he repeated that 400k comment often. He included the SC motor too, as long as it had oil-fed tensioners. He was also know for his advice to buy the newest Porsche you can afford because they just keep getting better. That advice probably ignored collector and nostalgia purchases, but is otherwise probably as true today as it was back then.

[german1985]

Tom, I won't keep you all week on my communication - but what a great idea - pictures. A most competent and detailed mechanic comes to my garage/shop to work on the 1985 - Chad Cobb. He will be excited about being published on Carpokes!
I treat folks nicely so I respect when "return in kind" occurs; so will enjoy doing so for the Carpokes group. This adds a whole additional level of excitement and purpose to the project!
Stand by!!
Best Wishes,
Greg

[german1985]

Tom, Sorry- I'm not the most sociable guy in the room, so I have missed the "thanks" button with regard to those who have interfaced with my posts directly - thanks to them and I have gone back and keyed the "thanks" button on their posts to, latently register my thanks for their notice and help on my points!
Now aware of this feature I understand it is a powerful feature of this forum ie encouraging all members to post their Porsche points to the benefit of us all. We are all "grown up men/women" who stand on our own, but a thank you still is a powerful message even to a strong and independent personality, in the family of Porsche owners!
Thanks again for your hosting this most valuable of member help sites in the USA porsche Community!
Greg