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Short Shifter
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:15 am
by Stormy_Monday
Anyone install a short shifter in their 718? Worth it?
grazie
Re: Short Shifter
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:42 am
by ReidMcT
Many have. I've also swapped the shifter in my CTM6 for a functionally identical Numeric brand shifter. Worth it depends on you. Most - not all - prefer the shorter rod. Note that the only difference is the length of the rod, which lowers the groove that the shift knob locks onto. So, you give up some mechanical leverage for lower height and shorter throws.
Re: Short Shifter
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:27 pm
by Ix_
I replaced the stock shifter housing and shifter cables with Numerics. The shifter housing was relatively easy to install but the Porsche trim does not come off easily. You really have to take your time and you still risk damaging things.
The cables were very time consuming. The enjoyment I get out of the increased precision and feel is just worth all that trouble, in my book, but barely. The stock cables do have a tendency to break, leaving people stuck in or out of gear or preventing them from engaging some gears until fixed. Supposedly Numeric cables are significantly less likely to have those issues, so I've told myself it was definitely worth is.
If a friend asks me to help them install the same parts on their own car, I will ghost them. New friends are easier to come by.
Re: Short Shifter
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:46 pm
by blueline
Ix_ wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:27 pm
I replaced the stock shifter housing and shifter cables with Numerics. The shifter housing was relatively easy to install but the Porsche trim does not come off easily. You really have to take your time and you still risk damaging things.
The cables were very time consuming. The enjoyment I get out of the increased precision and feel is
just worth all that trouble, in my book, but barely. The stock cables do have a tendency to break, leaving people stuck in or out of gear or preventing them from engaging some gears until fixed. Supposedly Numeric cables are significantly less likely to have those issues, so I've told myself it was definitely worth is.
If a friend asks me to help them install the same parts on their own car, I will ghost them. New friends are easier to come by.
Lol !!
Regarding Numeric, they do offer some great products.
Re: Short Shifter
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 3:07 pm
by Sam_Flat6
I’ve done so many short shifters from BMW to Honda to Mazda. All of them had some compromises. S2000 OEM shifter is probably the best shifting experience from factory.
Does the Numeric feel that much better than stock in Porsche cars? Any compromises that give cause for concern on long term wear?
Re: Short Shifter
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:08 pm
by J-Dub
So far I have only swapped to a shorter but heavier weighted shift knob. I like this change quite a bit so far. Would love to test drive someones car who has done the Numeric upgrade. One day hopefully.
Re: Short Shifter
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 6:21 pm
by ReidMcT
Sam_Flat6 wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 3:07 pm
Does the Numeric feel that much better than stock in Porsche cars? Any compromises that give cause for concern on long term wear?
To me, the feel was the same when compared to my CTM6's stock 'shorty' shifter (Post#2 above), which had roughly 30k miles. Other people have said they feel flex in the stock unit, which is what the Numeric video purports to demonstrate (unconvincingly, to me).
I tested both, and could not detect any flex in either shifter, but the cables do flex a bit. I think there is little question that the Numeric has no 'compromises.' Indeed, it appears built to outlast the stock unit by decades. I just don't think it outperforms now. So, I would call it an unnecessary, high-quality, and expensive durability upgrade.
Re: Short Shifter
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 12:42 am
by Sam_Flat6
Figured as much.
Re: Short Shifter
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:30 am
by PBP718
Ix_ wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:27 pm
I replaced the stock shifter housing and shifter cables with Numerics. The shifter housing was relatively easy to install but the Porsche trim does not come off easily. You really have to take your time and you still risk damaging things.
The cables were very time consuming. The enjoyment I get out of the increased precision and feel is
just worth all that trouble, in my book, but barely. The stock cables do have a tendency to break, leaving people stuck in or out of gear or preventing them from engaging some gears until fixed. Supposedly Numeric cables are significantly less likely to have those issues, so I've told myself it was definitely worth is.
If a friend asks me to help them install the same parts on their own car, I will ghost them. New friends are easier to come by.
What spring did you go with?
Re: Short Shifter
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 7:42 pm
by Cajun Cayman
I switched to the Short shifter and found it to be a welcomed change. The shifter knob sits lower and allows the hand to be in a better position and the gear changes are more direct but not notchy. I am very pleased and it changes the driving experience.