Looking for DME BIN files

[four0four]

Kokeln for sure is, I don't know if anyone's selling the Max.

It would be interesting to see what ones are just remaps vs what ones involve some (or all!) new code...Plus what safety features and all are/are not disabled

[Tom]

Kokeln for sure is, I don't know if anyone's selling the Max.

It would be interesting to see what ones are just remaps vs what ones involve some (or all!) new code...Plus what safety features and all are/are not disabled

Yeah, I'll look through them and try to compare. I remember looking at the BINs of a now-defunct tuner many years ago, and was amused to see an APE copyright notice in the code. Whether he started with the APE chip and modified it, or just copied it outright, I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me at all to find a serious amount of overlap between the various tuner chips.

[Latitude48]

I have a set of 28-pin Autothority DME and KLR chips that came with the 951 when my son purchased it. It's currently running chips from ProMAX SciVision that came with the MAF conversion, so if someone could tell me how to read the data off these Autothority chips I could upload it.

[Tom]

I have a set of 28-pin Autothority DME and KLR chips that came with the 951 when my son purchased it. It's currently running chips from ProMAX SciVision that came with the MAF conversion, so if someone could tell me how to read the data off these Autothority chips I could upload it.

You need an EPROM reader of some kind. I'm using this one from Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BFWKS53B?re ... title&th=1

Or, if you were so inclined-- zero pressure -- you could send them to me and I could get the data and return the chips pronto.

[JamesM]

At this point I feel like the cat is out of the bag, most vendors selling chips still have been selling the same tune from over 15 year ago at what point is their tune protected was it ever? A majority of people wanting a chip would never go through the effort of buying a chip burner and making their own. Maybe others disagree but that's my file sharing mindset.

@four0four do you have any more specifics on that kokeln tune?

I will try and get my files posted tomorrow

[Tom]

At this point I feel like the cat is out of the bag, most vendors selling chips still have been selling the same tune from over 15 year ago at what point is their tune protected was it ever? A majority of people wanting a chip would never go through the effort of buying a chip burner and making their own. Maybe others disagree but that's my file sharing mindset.

@four0four do you have any more specifics on that kokeln tune?

I will try and get my files posted tomorrow

I've already found a couple of performance chips with identical WOT maps. I'll try to do a comparison chart after collecting as many chips BINs as I can, so please post yours. I'm also inclined to eventually burn chips with my own blend of maps and sell them for cost/peanuts. There are companies out there selling chips for over $700. That would be ok for the pioneers who did all the work to crack the maps, etc., or for chips that were truly unique in some way, but at this point that seems pretty unconscionable for just another re-hashed version of what's already in the public domain via TunerPro, etc.

[JamesM]

I total agree with you on unique chips like vitesse maf stuff but almost every thing else is free reign. I would be very interested to see a file for a rouge m tune if anyone has one and also I know the turbo cup cars came with a special chip and am curious what that looks like too

[Dave W.]

I had a chance to look at the Rogue M-Tune bin. The main things that stood out were that he loaded at least 4 different tunes on the same chip. Most likely he used the FQS switch to select the tune by pointing to a different starting address for the selected map. The AFM Transfer Function table was changed since he paired up the chips with a MAF. There were other changes in the code, as well as map alterations. Also, since each tune could only occupy 4k of space, some of the code was moved to different locations/addresses to fit inline with minimal unused space. Most of the other aftermarket chips also rearrange the code to fit, which is IMHO a part of their skill and value.

[Dave W.]

Here's another string you might like to play with.
37 06 03 0D 0E 32 32 6A 40 40 80 80 80 80

This is Load Filter Smoothing. It has an effect on throttle response, but making it too responsive also induces bucking. A lower number makes it smoother. Raise it to make it more responsive. Can you define it?

If you can't find that whole string in your performance chips, it's probably because they changed it. Try looking for just the first part. 37 06 03 0D 0E 32 32 6A

[Tom]

Here's another string you might like to play with.
37 06 03 0D 0E 32 32 6A 40 40 80 80 80 80

This is Load Filter Smoothing. It has an effect on throttle response, but making it too responsive also induces bucking. A lower number makes it smoother. Raise it to make it more responsive. Can you define it?

If you can't find that whole string in your performance chips, it's probably because they changed it. Try looking for just the first part. 37 06 03 0D 0E 32 32 6A

Got distracted putting the car back together, but getting back to this soon. Will look for that and see if I can add it to the xdf. @Dave W. Do you know if there is a 'correct' way to modify the maps to accommodate higher fuel pressure? Every BIN I have is designed for a 2.5Bar FPR, but I'd prefer to run a 3Bar just to get a little more out of my injectors. Fees like that should be part of some base calculation somewhere? Any insights?