IPD Plenum for 2022 718 GTS 4.0

[Larry C]

@nothingman How hard was it to replace the PDK shifter with the GT4 RS one? As far as the IPD plenum, I’m not sure if it will provide the same power gains as it did on prior models. As far as I know, it’s still not available. IPD says 2022 but you know how that goes. Also, I’m not sure I’d replace the plenum while under warranty.

[nothingman]

@nothingman How hard was it to replace the PDK shifter with the GT4 RS one? As far as the IPD plenum, I’m not sure if it will provide the same power gains as it did on prior models. As far as I know, it’s still not available. IPD says 2022 but you know how that goes. Also, I’m not sure I’d replace the plenum while under warranty.

Overall, it was fairly easy. The only hard part was taking apart the GT3 PDK shift knob because of tabs that are under a collar holding it together that are hard to reach. I can post the entire how-to on this site if requested.

[Larry C]

Very cool! That would be great if you posted a DIY instruction. Thanks

[Tom]

@nothingman How hard was it to replace the PDK shifter with the GT4 RS one? As far as the IPD plenum, I’m not sure if it will provide the same power gains as it did on prior models. As far as I know, it’s still not available. IPD says 2022 but you know how that goes. Also, I’m not sure I’d replace the plenum while under warranty.

Overall, it was fairly easy. The only hard part was taking apart the GT3 PDK shift knob because of tabs that are under a collar holding it together that are hard to reach. I can post the entire how-to on this site if requested.

Does the round insert on the top of the knob always stand proud of the knob like that? I'd LOVE to see a how-to posted on this... Please do! I have shifter aspirations of my own.

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[Potterjwp]

I am friends with the owner of IPD. I offered my Spyder as a donor car. They are busy on other business for the time being. I agree about the warranty issue. That is a big risk. I just bought an additional one year extension on my warranty through Porsche of Newport Beach.

[ex099]

We added the IPD Comp Plenum and 82 mm GT3 TB to our ‘08 Cayman S Sport. Not cheap, but definitely worth it. Low end throttle response much improved and mid-range on up is fantastic.

[Potterjwp]

I recently spoke to the IPD owner. I know that they have a 4.0 L engine so they can develop the plenum for that particular engine, whether it’s a GT, Spyder or a GTS. Like most of you, I’m concerned whether the IPD plenum would void my warranty.

[Ix_]

I worked at dealerships and for an automobile distributor. What I learned is this: manufacturer warranties cover defects in manufacture or design. So the test is simple:

Will the warranty cover the cost of a given repair?
The source of the problem was due to a defect in manufacture or design. ---> Yes, if still in the warranty period
or
The source of the problem was not due to a defect in manufacture or design. ---> No.

Of course, things are not always so black and white. Dealers, distributors (Porsche Cars NA is a distributor), and manufactures might put the blame on your driving, some modification you made, or service by an independent mechanic. They may say the problem is actually part of the normal design and function of the car. They may deny you warranty coverage but still pay all or part of the repair costs as a goodwill gesture. Maybe your driving broke something and they choose to overlook it and pay for the repair. Things can go either way.

So to address your comment directly, will modifying your car void the warranty. I don't even think it is legal to completely void the entire warranty of the car. The real question should be 1) whether the modification is likely to cause an issue that would cost a significant amount, and 2) whether that mod is likely to cause Porsche to deny a related warranty claim.

No one can answer that question with absolute certainty in advance. Factors in the decision include things like which dealer you take it to and what your relation is with them, how is the local PCNA service rep feeling that day, what is the nature of the problem, and how much is this repair estimated to cost. The answers here are not black and white.

All that said, read up on other owner's experiences with the same or similar mods. How many off the shelf ECU tunes from reputable companies are blowing up engines? If the answer is none, then performing that same mod is unlikely to give you problems and therefore you are unlikely to ever even need to face a warranty coverage question with the dealer/PCNA/Porsche. And how often have you heard of Porsche completely voiding a warranty due to a mod? Some service departments will look for mods in order to use it as ammo to defend a denial of a warranty claim, but again this can come down to your relationship with said dealer more than any actual facts.

I'm not picking on your specifically but I have seen this fear of total warranty annihilation from so many owners and few even understand how the warranty, a legal contract if I'm not mistaken, even works. Do your due diligence before doing any modification and make your choice, but don't assume one mod is going to suddenly make any manufacturing defect your own personal problem.

[Larry C]

My last two cars, a Golf R and an Audi RS3, had ECU software tunes. The VW and Audi dealerships scan the car, even for minor service appointments, and the information is sent to Germany. If a tune is detected (they can even see if the car had been tuned in the past), the car gets a TD1 and all warranty claims are subsequently denied. I’m not sure that this is totally legal but good luck engaging the dealership or car manufacturer in a lawsuit. I’m not sure if Porsche also is this stringent but I’m personally not willing to take a chance with a plenum or tune while the car is under warranty. Our cars are great right out of the box.

[Potterjwp]

I worked at dealerships and for an automobile distributor. What I learned is this: manufacturer warranties cover defects in manufacture or design. So the test is simple:

Will the warranty cover the cost of a given repair?
The source of the problem was due to a defect in manufacture or design. ---> Yes, if still in the warranty period
or
The source of the problem was not due to a defect in manufacture or design. ---> No.

Of course, things are not always so black and white. Dealers, distributors (Porsche Cars NA is a distributor), and manufactures might put the blame on your driving, some modification you made, or service by an independent mechanic. They may say the problem is actually part of the normal design and function of the car. They may deny you warranty coverage but still pay all or part of the repair costs as a goodwill gesture. Maybe your driving broke something and they choose to overlook it and pay for the repair. Things can go either way.

So to address your comment directly, will modifying your car void the warranty. I don't even think it is legal to completely void the entire warranty of the car. The real question should be 1) whether the modification is likely to cause an issue that would cost a significant amount, and 2) whether that mod is likely to cause Porsche to deny a related warranty claim.

No one can answer that question with absolute certainty in advance. Factors in the decision include things like which dealer you take it to and what your relation is with them, how is the local PCNA service rep feeling that day, what is the nature of the problem, and how much is this repair estimated to cost. The answers here are not black and white.

All that said, read up on other owner's experiences with the same or similar mods. How many off the shelf ECU tunes from reputable companies are blowing up engines? If the answer is none, then performing that same mod is unlikely to give you problems and therefore you are unlikely to ever even need to face a warranty coverage question with the dealer/PCNA/Porsche. And how often have you heard of Porsche completely voiding a warranty due to a mod? Some service departments will look for mods in order to use it as ammo to defend a denial of a warranty claim, but again this can come down to your relationship with said dealer more than any actual facts.

I'm not picking on your specifically but I have seen this fear of total warranty annihilation from so many owners and few even understand how the warranty, a legal contract if I'm not mistaken, even works. Do your due diligence before doing any modification and make your choice, but don't assume one mod is going to suddenly make any manufacturing defect your own personal problem.

Your opinion, analysis and experience is valuable. I am keeping this thesis in my back pocket. Just in case. Thank you!