944 Turbo Respray - Progress Log - FINISHED!

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Hey Folks! I thought I would create a thread to log the progress of getting a full respray on my car. This thread will stick to everything on the outside of the car. Since this is a work in progress, I will provide pictures and updates as I receive them. Hopefully this will help someone that is also thinking about going through this process.

Car: 1987 944 Turbo
Mileage: 170K
Color: LY5Z Nautic Blue Metallic (nauticblau)
This color is also known as "Ocean Blue Metallic" but there doesn't seem to be any reference to the difference as they both share the same paint code. For the 944 series, it was available in 87 and 88 model years only, being most prevalent in the S and 951. While mostly paired with the "light gray" interior, there are also examples with black and Can Can interiors. As with many metallics, the car changes color a bit under different lighting. It can go from looking black, to dark navy, to a grayish blue and in the sunlight, it "flops" to a purple-ish blue. According to Rennbow, the color scores a 4 of 5 on the rarity scale, indicating a color that is not very common.
Respray Color: Same color in PPG base and clear
Why respray?: TLDR - the car was a "10 footer" and I want it to be a "0 footer". I bought the car in December of 2022. The car was overall in great condition, being a garage kept FL car most of it's life (Immaculate rear spoiler, crackless dash, zero rust). However, at 176K miles, the paint shined beautifully but upon close examination, EVERY SINGLE panel (even the roof) had some sort of dent, ding, chip, etc. Thus, I was able to get the car at a lower price than if the paint was in better shape and bought it knowing I would invest in a respray in the future. I know it's a large investment, but the goal for this car is for weekend meetups/shows and nice weather drives to work. I will drive this car as much as possible, but in all honesty it will probably never see any track time - just some "spirited" drives with the local PCA group and 944 meetups (Helen meet, 944Fest, etc).
Noted Blemishes:
-Front bumper: spider web in paint from light collision
-Fenders: 35 year old PPF was hard and cracking. Preliminary attempts to remove also removed paint. 2-3 tiny door dings in each fender
-Doors: Removing door gaurd strips from each side. Noticeable door ding in passenger door that PDR didn't totally remove
-Roof: noticeable dent in roof between driver door and sunroof
-Quarters: clearcoat staining from not cleaning gas on fender. Numerous paint chips that were touched up on both sides as well as door dings. PPF was a mess on both sides behind the doors and wheel wells.
Rear: Rear bumper corner pieces deformed and cracked - must have had rear end collision at some point. Multiple long, bad scratches (poorly touched up) that look like someone had a few too many brewskie's and couldn't find the hatch release key hole.

Shop: Javelin Motor Cars, LLC in Salem, VA (~3 hours from Raleigh)
Javelin is owned by Ron Garrison, who does restoration paintwork and resprays on the side of his normal "9 to 5", which is working at a larger body shop. While he does not discriminate on the make or model of the car, Ron is a Porsche guy, owning (2) 928's and a previous 944 owner. I chose Ron to do the work based on the following factors:
1) It was difficult to find an affordable shop in the Raleigh, NC area to do a full respray - most shops are focussed on insurance repair work and MAACO was not a consideration.
2) I followed his FB page as he resprayed an 86 Arctic White 944 Turbo, so I was confident of his knowledge in disassembly
3) Fair and reasonable pricing **Note - his price quotes are based on the level of work required on each vehicle (you send him many pictures), so I will not be disclosing what I paid.
4) Communication - Ron will over-communicate with you during all steps of the process. Very comforting when sending your car away.
5) His patience. There were many delays on my end as I got the car mechanically where I wanted it to be before the respray. He had to shift his schedule around and bring in another car before mine was ready
6) He was w/in a reasonable distance and for a VERY reasonable fee, picked up and will deliver the car to my home.
7) Ron does not take full payment in the beginning or the end. Payments are typically split:
  • Payment 1: (Deposit ) - reserves you a spot in line and goes towards paint and supplies
    Payment 2: Paid when Ron receives the car (in my case, I paid him to pick it up)
    Payment 3: Paid when the car goes to primer/paint stage
    **Note - at this point he will put you in contact with the paint supplier and you will pay them directly
    Payment 4: Paid upon pickup or delivery
So here we go!

Before:
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Ron picking up the car on Saturday, Feb 24th.
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My 944 S lurking....waiting to get a spot in the garage again! Deep down I don't think it likes the 951.
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Made it to Javelin safely!
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Disassembly begins...
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Off with the old badge - this will go to the S, which is more faded. The turbo is getting a brand new crest and gasket.
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Wiper spray nozzles getting replaced with brand new ones.
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The car doesn't have headlight washers and the original plugs are degrading - new ones will be going on
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Drip rail gaskets are toast - will be replaced with brand new ones as well as all new clips
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All hardware and parts are bagged, tagged and boxed for safe keeping
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2013 Audi A5 Quattro - Brilliant Black (Son's daily)
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Door and 3/4 window glass is out! All new window and door seals, scrapers, etc. will be going on.
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Driver's side has the typical skin crack due to broken welds on the window support. That will be re-welded so it won't crack again.
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Door handles and mirrors coming off. Will have all new gaskets.
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Taping up to get ready for bodywork!
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That's all for now. Stay tuned for more!
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Will be great to see progress. I was at your stage 18 months ago with my 951. Since I was planning to replace the carpet and windshield, I also pulled the interior (including dash) and windshield before dropping it off. My paint looked much worse than yours. Like a 50 footer! Now I'd say its a 0 footer post respray.
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Welcome to the 944 Respray world. I have an 89 951 that I had originally planned to do "just what was needed" and Dr. Colorchip the nose, but then when I tried to remove the rock chip guards on the wheel opening lips and in front of the rear wheels, only one area came off clean and I found some oddities on the wheel opening lips, so when I took it to the shop I used, it turned into everything except the roof, so I added the roof as well to make sure everything matched. Mine is satinschwarz metallic, Y9Y, no regrets!
I also decided to redo the molding and the metal inserts that go into the molding that is around the side windows as some of mine were corroded (bubbles under the coating [paint?] of the rear quarter windows. Door window scrapers were replaced. Also the door handle, rear view mirror, and rear hatch lock grommets. Side door guard moldings were replaced, hatch came off but I didn't want to remove the windshield and that molding covers a goodly portion of paint permitting prepping/painting pretty much up to the glass, and a new molding was installed. Sunroof came out and the molding I bought didn't really fit so ended having the original molding put back in place but now its non functional and I haven't yet tracked down why. New tail light gaskets (not a fan of the mastic used to seal so went with the Only944.com seals), scuff plates (not yet installed as I want to put square weave carpet in), also went with a new crest and grommet on the hood, side marker light seals, new roof trim clips, and new drip molding seals
Now the exterior makes the interior look bad even though my dash isn't cracked.
I made a spreadsheet of parts, part numbers, and costs in case you are interested.
Rob
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ROB III wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 2:20 pm but I didn't want to remove the windshield and that molding covers a goodly portion of paint permitting prepping/painting pretty much up to the glass, and a new molding was installed.
It would be great news to hear if that gasket can just be pulled out and a new gasket be inserted.
ROB III wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 2:20 pm I made a spreadsheet of parts, part numbers, and costs in case you are interested.
I have already purchased almost all of the items needed, but if you could share it I would appreciate it!
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whalenlg wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 1:41 pm Will be great to see progress. I was at your stage 18 months ago with my 951. Since I was planning to replace the carpet and windshield, I also pulled the interior (including dash) and windshield before dropping it off. My paint looked much worse than yours. Like a 50 footer! Now I'd say its a 0 footer post respray.
At least for me, the interior is a much easier DIY restoration. Everything else is just new or used parts, screws, nuts and bolts, time and money. I did have a local upholstery shop recover the seats in both my 944's (I supplied the covers), but only because I didn't feel like dealing with that level of frustration.

Paint and body work? Now that's something beyond my skillset. I'd rather do clutch replacements and rod bearings on 951's all day rather than to do bodywork and paint. Same with when I remodeled my house. I'll handle the construction, wiring, plumbing, flooring, etc. Tape/paint/cleanup the walls and trim? - No thanks!
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I have the latest from Javelin Motor Cars. I knew the car, despite it's 10 ft away shine, had many flaws that were not noticeable until you REALLY looked for them. These are often unnoticed when gawking at your car in a garage. However, when you take it into the sunlight or put the LED lights to it.....the horror reveals itself...

The small dents in the front of the hood look to be from 30+ years of using knuckles to latch the hood
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This is why parking lots are the devil.
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The large area under the fuel filler cap is from years of gas not being cleaned up after refueling. Don't forget to give your nozzle the 2 shake jingle when you're done!
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I rolled the fenders (Eastwood roller) to accommodate the 275/35/18's on the rear. There was no rubbing on the passenger side, but the drivers side would rub under hard acceleration. The rolling did leave some waviness in the fender lip, which Ron is going to correct.
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Parts are now being prepped for primer!
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More to come soon!
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2015 Audi RS5 Sepang Blue (Daily)
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I've wanted to do this for so long! Looking forward to the progress pics!

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