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The EU vs. Apple cords
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:40 pm
by 911R
This is off my 2023 Porsche 911 Turbo thread. Someone switched it around. A moderator?
It was said that the new micro-plugs will replace the current Apple Lightning cord.
Apple Admits Defeat in Its Fight Against the USB-C.
The EU stated this to be effective in December 12-28-24.
If you read the entire article, I don't see Apple going along with the EU on the plugs. I will post joanne Sterns ( a great WSJ journalist) interview with the EU and the Apple executive (Mr. Jozwiak):
Jozwiak gave a diplomatic answer, citing how Apple has been in “an argument over this one for well over ten years.” And that when the argument began, the EU wanted to make Micro USB the universal charging standard. He pointed out that neither Lightning nor USB-C would exist if Micro USB had become the standard back then. However, he acknowledged that the company would capitulate to the new EU regulations.
I say the EU can say their rules as they find appropriate.
I am not so sure that Apple would require all 200 million customers in the U.S. to buy new phone connections that were required by the E.U.
The EU has mismanaged an important energy policy in their Countries, and they think can manage Apple phones?
It's a Bridge Too Far.
Re: The EU vs. Apple cords
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:43 am
by audi4t
The new connection will be on future new devices
Apple changed its proprietary connection before a few years ago when it moved from the 30 pin connector to the lightning connector. Apple device owners were up in arms then but soon adopted the change and adapters became available.
Apple laptops and desktops also have non interchangeable proprietary connectors.
Apple no longer includes the power block transformer with a new iPhone.
I’m not saying it’s right but maybe it’s the EU’s way of getting back at us for not adopting the metric system




Re: The EU vs. Apple cords
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:42 am
by Norville
audi4t wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:43 am
The new connection will be on future new devices
Apple changed its proprietary connection before a few years ago when it moved from the 30 pin connector to the lightning connector. Apple device owners were up in arms then but soon adopted the change and adapters became available.
Apple laptops and desktops also have non interchangeable proprietary connectors.
Apple no longer includes the power block transformer with a new iPhone.
I’m not saying it’s right but maybe it’s the EU’s way of getting back at us for not adopting the metric system



I concur with this. My HP laptop charges with a proprietary connector or usb-c. My Apple laptop is usb c only, as is my iPad Pro. My phone is lightning, why? It seems that Apple is not thinking ahead, just thinking different on this issue.
Re: The EU vs. Apple cords
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:00 am
by Tom
I think they liked making the extra money, but sounds like the phone is moving to usb c too....
https://www.wired.com/story/apple-says- ... b-c-ports/
(911R -- The system logs all changes made by moderators, and I don't see any changes made to your thread....)
Re: The EU vs. Apple cords
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:21 am
by blueline
911R wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:40 pm
This is off my 2023 Porsche 911 Turbo thread. Someone switched it around. A moderator?
It was said that the new micro-plugs will replace the current Apple Lightning cord.
Apple Admits Defeat in Its Fight Against the USB-C.
The EU stated this to be effective in December 12-28-24.
If you read the entire article, I don't see Apple going along with the EU on the plugs.
I will post joanne Sterns ( a great WSJ journalist) interview with the EU and the Apple executive (Mr. Jozwiak):
Jozwiak gave a diplomatic answer, citing how Apple has been in “an argument over this one for well over ten years.” And that when the argument began, the EU wanted to make Micro USB the universal charging standard. He pointed out that neither Lightning nor USB-C would exist if Micro USB had become the standard back then. However, he acknowledged that the company would capitulate to the new EU regulations.
I say the EU can say their rules as they find appropriate.
I am not so sure that Apple would require all 200 million customers in the U.S. to buy new phone connections that were required by the E.U.
The EU has mismanaged an important energy policy in their Countries, and they think can manage Apple phones?
It's a Bridge Too Far.
The link I provided was directly quoted from Stern's WSJ article and interview with the Apple exec, Greg Joswiak and senior vice president of software engineering, Craig Federighi. And yes, in that article the Apple exec didn't fully commit to the change coming to the U.S., but I have no doubt that it will.
From the link:
"The 35-minute interview, conducted by the Journal’s Joanna Stern..."
Smart move for Apple and better yet for consumers here and worldwide.
Re: The EU vs. Apple cords
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:18 am
by 911R
I agree with everyone (Tom, I may have switched it).
I just don't think any governments should get involved in the market's technology. If Apple says it good, I am all for it. If Porsche says it's good, I am all in.
I just wish they would stop borrowing money with no way to pay it back. It just seems irresponsible to build debt without the funding with more taxes. I'll pay for good things while not kicking the debt to the next generation.