SOX, great post!
I wish I'd had mine since new but like to feel I saved it from a slow death in a random garage in Florida.
Nice to hear from a longtime owner who still keeps it going! Mines an 89 that I purchased 20 years ago and tried t keep it alive while my son went through High School and college. I'm still trying to revive and upgrade.
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Hey fellas, thanks for the warm welcome.
ROB III, it's funny that you ask about differences in their "personalities". The 944 turbo is so well armed at the track (I did a few sessions at the track before the kids) that it would literally out-brake and out-run everything except 911 turbos. I found that the turbo S could really brake late into the turn and if you keep it in the boost zone in the esses that everything else kinda seems slow. As everybody knows, these need to be in the 3500 rpm zone where everything kind of syncs. Super capable chassis that can take a lot more HP/torque. Slingshot type of personality once you're on a nice curvy open road.
The 993, in my mind, is just so super of a classic and unique 911 experience. In the cabin, way more comfortable than the earlier series. The chassis rotates so well and the power is linear, but still deceptively quick. But it really is the handling that stands out...feels like a faster turn rate than the 944 turbo. In the next year or so, I'm going to lower the car with Porsche M030 Euro Springs and I have a set of hollow spokes that will make the car even better in my mind.
In conclusion, both outstanding examples of amazing engineering but kind of like comparing an Me262 jet (extremely fast and stable) with a British Spitfire (very fast turn rate) of WWII vintage.
ROB III, it's funny that you ask about differences in their "personalities". The 944 turbo is so well armed at the track (I did a few sessions at the track before the kids) that it would literally out-brake and out-run everything except 911 turbos. I found that the turbo S could really brake late into the turn and if you keep it in the boost zone in the esses that everything else kinda seems slow. As everybody knows, these need to be in the 3500 rpm zone where everything kind of syncs. Super capable chassis that can take a lot more HP/torque. Slingshot type of personality once you're on a nice curvy open road.
The 993, in my mind, is just so super of a classic and unique 911 experience. In the cabin, way more comfortable than the earlier series. The chassis rotates so well and the power is linear, but still deceptively quick. But it really is the handling that stands out...feels like a faster turn rate than the 944 turbo. In the next year or so, I'm going to lower the car with Porsche M030 Euro Springs and I have a set of hollow spokes that will make the car even better in my mind.
In conclusion, both outstanding examples of amazing engineering but kind of like comparing an Me262 jet (extremely fast and stable) with a British Spitfire (very fast turn rate) of WWII vintage.
Robin
1988 Porsche 944 turbo S
1995 Porsche 993 Carrera 2
1988 Porsche 944 turbo S
1995 Porsche 993 Carrera 2
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@Seattle993
Very succinct analogy.
In a previous life when I evaluated cars for work, the team I was with felt the initial turn in response was a tad slow on the 951 and one thread of discussion in our observations was that it may have been done by design to allow the boost to build so that you wouldn't input too much steering angle then have to adjust steering angle when the boost hit, leading to backing off the throttle and subsequent drop in boost for directional adjustments which exacerbated the change in power delivery and thus front/rear grip characteristics. Not such an issue in a high speed open road situation with broader turn radii where throttle position and boost are possibly more consistent. But when you have instantaneous throttle/torque response in a non-boosted car, its easier to turn your car into a responsive dance partner.....
Again, I envy your choices....different cars for different courses.
Thank you
Very succinct analogy.
In a previous life when I evaluated cars for work, the team I was with felt the initial turn in response was a tad slow on the 951 and one thread of discussion in our observations was that it may have been done by design to allow the boost to build so that you wouldn't input too much steering angle then have to adjust steering angle when the boost hit, leading to backing off the throttle and subsequent drop in boost for directional adjustments which exacerbated the change in power delivery and thus front/rear grip characteristics. Not such an issue in a high speed open road situation with broader turn radii where throttle position and boost are possibly more consistent. But when you have instantaneous throttle/torque response in a non-boosted car, its easier to turn your car into a responsive dance partner.....
Again, I envy your choices....different cars for different courses.
Thank you
Rob
89 944 Turbo
Musik-Stadt Region
89 944 Turbo
Musik-Stadt Region
New Member! Bob Garcia
Frederick, Maryland
Current Vehicles:
1973 Porsche 914 2.0 Original color Olympic Blue, Currently Audi Pearl White
1984 Porsche 944 Copenhagen Blue
2020 Toyota Tundra SR5 Magnetic Grey
Just Sold:
1988 Mercedes Benz 560SL Cabernet/Palomino
Semi retired
Frederick, Maryland
Current Vehicles:
1973 Porsche 914 2.0 Original color Olympic Blue, Currently Audi Pearl White
1984 Porsche 944 Copenhagen Blue
2020 Toyota Tundra SR5 Magnetic Grey
Just Sold:
1988 Mercedes Benz 560SL Cabernet/Palomino
Semi retired
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Bob,
Nice progression of vehicles. I'm guessing the Toyota is the daily driver, particularly in the winter months.
When you have some free time look through the transaxle posts. Great deal of information there.
Welcome to CARPOKES and thank you for joining and sharing your rides!
Nice progression of vehicles. I'm guessing the Toyota is the daily driver, particularly in the winter months.
When you have some free time look through the transaxle posts. Great deal of information there.
Welcome to CARPOKES and thank you for joining and sharing your rides!
Rob
89 944 Turbo
Musik-Stadt Region
89 944 Turbo
Musik-Stadt Region
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Welcome to Carpokes Roy !jbuquiron wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2026 1:58 pm Hey everyone, I'm a new member.
I got myself a 1983 944 last year. Lots of small things to fix here and there interior wise, but for the most part it's a great car summer car.
Thanks,
Roy
2023 Porsche 718 Cayman in Chalk
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Welcome Roy and Uncle , we do need some pictures of the 944 and the 914 respectively as many of us started or got our first Porsche drive/ride in one of those two sweethearts!
2024 Chalk Cayman GTS
2020 White Macan S
2013 Blue/White Viper GTS Launch Edition
2022 Silver Ram W1500 Laramie CrewCab
2024 24ft Aluminum Enclosed EZHauler Trailer
2020 White Macan S
2013 Blue/White Viper GTS Launch Edition
2022 Silver Ram W1500 Laramie CrewCab
2024 24ft Aluminum Enclosed EZHauler Trailer
Very happy to jump into such a great community!
Name: Jeff Kitchen
Location: Carmel, IN
2018 Cayman S, my first!
Motorsport and automotive professional, typically involved in sales, business development. and operations. Currently SVP for Race Keeper onboard video and data systems.
Enjoying the great Porsche owners here in and around Indy, including those with PCA and the Indy Porsche Club. Doesn't take much to get me to a cars and coffee gtg! Typically, I enjoy working on my cars, though age makes it harder to get on and off the ground, which is a must with a mid-engine car! I do have a Launch 431 if anyone needs help in the area.
Name: Jeff Kitchen
Location: Carmel, IN
2018 Cayman S, my first!
Motorsport and automotive professional, typically involved in sales, business development. and operations. Currently SVP for Race Keeper onboard video and data systems.
Enjoying the great Porsche owners here in and around Indy, including those with PCA and the Indy Porsche Club. Doesn't take much to get me to a cars and coffee gtg! Typically, I enjoy working on my cars, though age makes it harder to get on and off the ground, which is a must with a mid-engine car! I do have a Launch 431 if anyone needs help in the area.
2018 Cayman S, after owning over seven Audi's. Long time motorsport professional.
