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Re: Which Injectors?
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:19 pm
by Evan
Ditch the Dekas go with Bosch EV14s (like the 630cc or 750cc). They’re proven, have better data for tuning, and idle way smoother. ID or Injector Dynamics are top-tier if you want the best, but Bosch is solid for the price. Your tuners will thank you.
Re: Which Injectors?
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 1:57 pm
by Jotronic
Dave W. wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 9:42 pm
If you need good data, the net is a good place to start.
https://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=36303
A good tuner would know that finding the right settings for injectors can take some trial and error. It's rare to drop in a new set of injectors and plug in the fuel scalar and deadtime numbers and have it run perfect from the start.
This isn't the challenge tuners have with these injectors. The info you shared doesn't mention low pulse width compensation which is why we see when searching multiple comments about rich AFRs and bad idle. They're also commonly found as counterfeit. I'm ditching them regardless, going with Bosch, which makes the ID injectors albeit with custom specifications. Since I'm getting some gear from Bas he is sending me a matched set.
Re: Which Injectors?
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 1:59 pm
by eland843
Injector Dynamics ID725 or ID850 is an ideal alternative.
Re: Which Injectors?
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 12:58 am
by Bergerac
Jotronic wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 1:57 pm
This isn't the challenge tuners have with these injectors. The info you shared doesn't mention low pulse width compensation which is why we see when searching multiple comments about rich AFRs and bad idle. They're also commonly found as counterfeit. I'm ditching them regardless, going with Bosch, which makes the ID injectors albeit with custom specifications. Since I'm getting some gear from Bas he is sending me a matched set.
Good choice Joe, I noticed a big improvement over even the stock injectors, adding sequential injection to the mix was even better again.
Re: Which Injectors?
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 11:36 am
by Jotronic
Bergerac wrote: Fri Aug 01, 2025 12:58 am
Jotronic wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 1:57 pm
This isn't the challenge tuners have with these injectors. The info you shared doesn't mention low pulse width compensation which is why we see when searching multiple comments about rich AFRs and bad idle. They're also commonly found as counterfeit. I'm ditching them regardless, going with Bosch, which makes the ID injectors albeit with custom specifications. Since I'm getting some gear from Bas he is sending me a matched set.
Good choice Joe, I noticed a big improvement over even the stock injectors, adding sequential injection to the mix was even better again.
Thanks. I'm using these in my 8v motor for now and will be switching them to my new 3.0 motor once that's done along with sequential.