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I had earlier considered the Contis but honestly didn't think of them when I was ordering. They will be on the list next time though. My major reason for going with A/S tires is temperature, not rain. In winter we get 20 and 30 degree days frequently and UHP tires don't do well at all when cold.

Ya forsure…Different tires for different conditions… we’re not all
Track only guys… sticky tires can suck for some normal driving… not to mention the sand and rocks they kick up… geeez!!

If anyone wants an affordable performance tire that is quiet, good wearing, great traction… General G-max R’s… have them on my c -class. For the money, fantastic! Continental owns General tires and really the g-max is a conti performance tire for a lot less…

I put on a set of Falken AZENIS FK460 A/S today. I haven't yet driven twisties, but first impressions:

1. Much quieter than the Michelin PS4S they replace
2. Better ride
3. No curb rash protection!

Those Falkens seem like a reasonable choice, Reid. I have about 4500 miles on a 20" set of Toyo Proxes A/S so far, and my experience has been totally satisfactory. Reasonably quiet and acceptable ride quality, and all the grip one needs for public streets. They were fine all through the cold months and allowed me to drive a lot more than the prior Conti summer tires would have been happy with.

I put a pair of Falkens on the front after blowing out a sidewall on the BRPW. Still have the originals PS4s on the rear, with almost 18k miles. The Falkens are ok. To my feeble mind, I prefer the ride of the Michelins. With my current car, I think the combination of the PASM and the PS4s' is great. Just my 2 cents.

Stormy_Monday wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:42 am I put a pair of Falkens on the front after blowing out a sidewall on the BRPW. Still have the originals PS4s on the rear, with almost 18k miles. The Falkens are ok. To my feeble mind, I prefer the ride of the Michelins. With my current car, I think the combination of the PASM and the PS4s' is great. Just my 2 cents.

I do have some trepidation about how they'll do on my T, with its PASM and torque vectoring, etc. I recall the P-Zeros on my '17 had a high threshold before they would understeer; I have a feeling I'll need to dial back my expectations a bit with these new fronts. Will see....

ReidMcT wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:33 am

Stormy_Monday wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:42 am I put a pair of Falkens on the front after blowing out a sidewall on the BRPW. Still have the originals PS4s on the rear, with almost 18k miles. The Falkens are ok. To my feeble mind, I prefer the ride of the Michelins. With my current car, I think the combination of the PASM and the PS4s' is great. Just my 2 cents.

I do have some trepidation about how they'll do on my T, with its PASM and torque vectoring, etc. I recall the P-Zeros on my '17 had a high threshold before they would understeer; I have a feeling I'll need to dial back my expectations a bit with these new fronts. Will see....

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I've now done several kinds of driving over several hundred miles, and I'm satisfied with the Falken Azenis 460 A/S tires. If I had any thoughts of track driving, these tires would be out of the question. And if the tires were branded Michelin, I'd never suspect they weren't, except by the price.

They are very noticeably quieter than the UHP summer tires I've had on my Caymans - Michelin PS4S and Pirelli P-Zero. The ride is also much more plush.

For sporty driving on public roads the Falkens had enough grip and steered well. I had the windows open, and never heard any squealing from the tires. The LSD and torque vectoring felt the same to me in tight turns as it had on the Michelins. I felt as though I was closer to the tire's limits, but that was fine.

Next, I had an hour or so of highway driving in light to medium rain. The Falkens had good grip for cornering and braking. The rain wasn't heavy enough to judge hydroplaning. They felt fine at 75mph on wet chip-seal roads.

I did not like their feeling when I pulled out to pass. They felt a bit lighter than I want, as if the car were on the edge of fishtailing, but they held and ESC didn't trigger. Later, with very light traffic, I tried a few lane changes. I didn't even consider trying hard GP-style snap lane-change. But I could change lanes smartly, if smoothly.

Bottom line, I think it makes sense to drive sensibly (if sometimes fast) in the rain. If that's you, then these tires are fine on that count.

I don't doubt that I get far closer to these tires' limits than I did to the Michelins or Pirellis, but these A/S seem to have more than I need or want on public roads. I was able to trigger a moderate fishtail event, but only by deliberately overpowering a turn exit.

Today, in light to moderate rain, I drove the broad clean streets of downtown Houston. The Falkens exceeded! I could zip around in the rain the same as I might in the dry. Accelerating to make that mis-timed light was - to me - shocking.

I expect these tires will reward me with more comfortable and quiet driving every day, while being ready and able to perform on field trips.

One real disappointment is that these tires offer no rim protection.

Excellent feedback and report Reid. Thanks!

GTS3twenty10 mentioned one very important safety issue that is really key which is having the same tire ( even model ) both front and back. Tire models , even from the same Manufacturer, can have different tread patterns, compounds sidewall structures and more and for a high performance machine like your Porsche this is not the best area to save a few bucks, imho.