Poll: Are you ICE or EV?

[Tom]

...I’ll ICE as long as I can (sports cars). EV has a long way to go before the infrastructure is ready for the masses… so we’ll see.

EV has a huge infrastructure issue here in N. Georgia: There are very few of them. I have 220v in my garage (originally for an air compressor), but I am not moving out a Porsche 911 for an EV charging station.

It seems to me that EV charging stations should have been in place before EV cars/trucks were subsidized?

A friend got a JuiceBox home charger for his EV. It's small, it just mounts on the wall in the garage and hooks up to household 240V service. No need to move anything out to make space.

Does it fully charge a car overnight?

[Dave W.]

EV has a huge infrastructure issue here in N. Georgia: There are very few of them. I have 220v in my garage (originally for an air compressor), but I am not moving out a Porsche 911 for an EV charging station.

It seems to me that EV charging stations should have been in place before EV cars/trucks were subsidized?

A friend got a JuiceBox home charger for his EV. It's small, it just mounts on the wall in the garage and hooks up to household 240V service. No need to move anything out to make space.

Does it fully charge a car overnight?

He used it on a Fiat 500E which only had 100 mile range, so yes it recharged overnight.

Home chargers are convenient, just mount the charging station in the garage near to the car. After driving, just pull into the garage, pop the 'gas cap' and plug in the charging cable. Even a basic 240V charger can add significant range on large vehicles with large battery packs during an 8 hour overnight charge.

[Bill in Bama]

If I do buy the Lucid I plan to house it in my new freestanding garage next to the Cayenne. The 718 stays in the main garage next to my wife's Bimmer. I had 240 v. outlets installed in the new building just because, so putting a charger in there will be easy. If I sell the car I'll likely include the charger with it.

[Tom]

If I do buy the Lucid I plan to house it in my new freestanding garage next to the Cayenne. The 718 stays in the main garage next to my wife's Bimmer. I had 240 v. outlets installed in the new building just because, so putting a charger in there will be easy. If I sell the car I'll likely include the charger with it.

Is that the one with 1200hp that goes 200mph?

When we designed my garage, I wasn't sure where I wanted the lift or the welder, so we installed 2 extra 240v circuits/outlets so we'd have some options. That juicebox looks like it would plug right in. My wife is determined to get either the new Subaru Soltera or the VW ID Buzz, both electric, so I'm looking for options. Her cars have always been 'outside cars' though, so haven't sorted out how that's going to work? Maybe a nice carport is in order.

[911R]

..A friend got a JuiceBox home charger for his EV. It's small, it just mounts on the wall in the garage and hooks up to household 240V service. No need to move anything out to make space.

He has a big garage. I can only hold two cars in my garage. I bought my house new in 1988 when garages were smaller. I'd need 12 permits plus permission from the homeowners association to expand it today.

[heckler]

I’m internal combustion now, but I know better than to say I’ll never have an EV. Maybe once they figure a few things out. My buddy loves saying how quick his Tesla is. It’s great until you have to turn.

[Bluehighways]

My Porsche is 100% ICE. My EV6 is 100% Electric. My wife’s BMW is a hybrid. If/when Porsche offers a 911 with a hybrid option, I’ll probably be a buyer.

[toddinmd]

EV has a huge infrastructure issue here in N. Georgia: There are very few of them. I have 220v in my garage (originally for an air compressor), but I am not moving out a Porsche 911 for an EV charging station.

It seems to me that EV charging stations should have been in place before EV cars/trucks were subsidized?

A friend got a JuiceBox home charger for his EV. It's small, it just mounts on the wall in the garage and hooks up to household 240V service. No need to move anything out to make space.

Does it fully charge a car overnight?

We went with a chargepoint home flex, and installed a 50amp circuit with a NEMA 14-50 plug in the garage. That allows you to run the charger at 42amp. Our Taycan charges overnight.

Also keep in mind there are outdoor chargers and you can charge outside, no need to garage the car. It's good rain or shine.

[Bill in Bama]

This is straying from the original poll topic but I wanted to offer comment on my take on the push toward EV production: I'm no prognosticator and have no crystal ball to see into the future, but I have a nagging fear that all the car makers moving almost en mass to EV production just might cause a severe disruption in the future supply of vehicles for the populace.

I'm not trying to start a political aruguement here, just offering a possible scenario if things don't go as smoothly as everyone seems to believe. We've already discussed a bit the lack of sufficient charging stations nationwide, the high cost of EV's, and other possible problems. Many sensible people in both the energy and vehicle manufacturing industries plus others have stated that ICE cars will be with us for a long time, and I believe this is true. Imagine having an EV in most countries in Africa, or Indonesia, India, or any number of other places that are just emerging or yet to emerge from third world status. What is the likelihood of a sufficient charging network being built in these places?

Suppose 10-15 or 20 years from now the EV switch is well on the way and the cost and availability of materials for batteries
has disappeared or increased so much in price that EV's are priced out of reach of 90% of the car buyers? Suppose the "battery breakthrough" never occurs? Or any one of a number of other unforeseen things happen, unintended consequences occur, etc. The massive amount of capital being expended by the car makers to go electric is staggering and I wonder if some might soon reach the point of no return with regards to returning to ICE production in significant numbers, at least in an acceptable time period.

I'm no expert, just a simple guy loving my Porsche and the driving experience it affords me. And I most likely won't live to see much of what I've just laid out above (I'm 74), so it won't matter to me personally but my children and grandchildren will have to live with the results of the decisions being made right now.

I welcome orderly and polite discussion on this subject. Maybe Tom should move it to another separate topic.

[GT3Twenty10]

I think the EV will be the savior of the classic car industry…
There are so many hurdles this EV endeavor will come up against. I’m still a hybrid believer and think it’s the best solution. I don’t care if a EV can run a .5 second 0-60 time… there to heavy. Now the 18 wheeler world should have been a test pilot for all this EV fuss